This whole story is wild! This is an incredibly detailed and well-written analysis. One of your best yet!!
I think the discrepancies in Hicks' story are the most profound. So basically, it's said that serrated blades cannot cut through bone. Both saws alleged to have been used were serrated. From personal experience living in the woods, having 8 trees fall per year, I've done a lot of manual sawing, and cutting through a 20" diameter tree (super small) with both of those types of saws is EXHAUSTING and physically demanding. I'm over it after 3 minutes and it can take 15 minutes to complete. Wood is infinitely easier to saw through than bone. I can't imagine anyone sawing through bone. Even though bones are smaller, there's just no way, they're too hard.
Also, smashing bones with a sledgehammer and then transporting those bones to scatter them sounds odd. It would leave tons of fragments behind, unless done on a tarp in an enclosed setup, but the tarp would make it harder to smash.
I always had the impression he was never in prison, and it was all just for show. Like they moved him to some kind of safe house or something. The fact that the prison records are in limbo says everything.
The fact that "they claim" he was murdered in prison really has me wondering what exactly they are doing. You would not dispose of paperwork on an inmate that was supposedly killed at your facility. This was a 3 ring circus not a serial killer case smh
Absolutely! There should be records for something of this magnitude, and it’s of huge historical interest. But there’s nothing at all. I always had my suspicions that Jeff was never really in prison. For something of this magnitude, the perp would be a candidate for Supermax for starters, never to be seen again in public! He wouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the public let alone be filmed by MSNBC traipsing the admin hallways at CCI, unrestrained and unrestricted! Going to his TV interviews! It’s so ridiculous. There’s not one single picture of Jeff in a cell environment. And in reality, he didn’t warrant anything to be in a high security prison, since the findings show there were no murders committed by him.
I always thought it was weird that he wasn't in solitary confinement. Ramirez was always not just on his own for 27 years but was in the Adjustment Center - the harshest section of death row.
It's one of the first things that struck me about the prison story; it just didn't make any sense at all. As you mentioned, Ramirez, with the allegations made against him, was in solitary confinement
Right and dont get me started on the pictures they supposedly took of him in prison wearing a leather belt with belt buckle even though his fake confession said he strangled many with a leather strap. WYH. Jeff was not in jail
He's probably still alive somewhere under a different alias, laughing at us for believing the blatant tripe spewed about him. And he most certainly never seen a single day behind bars. The same could be said for other phony serial killers like Bundy and Manson.
It’s the tip of the iceberg. Yes I agree, I find it incredible that people can still believe all this nonsense. A close look and it completely falls apart. It’s a narrative that’s beyond ridiculous. And I always had my doubts that he ever spent a day in prison. He didn’t warrant anything and n reality, to be in a high security jail for a start. Let alone permitted to be around the public so freely.
Speaking of which, people sites like TruthFinder list him as still alive at age 65, which would be the alleged murderer's age if he's still living today. That site appears to list all the right places, although no relations are disclosed, which makes it a bit difficult to confirm if this Jeffrey Dahmer was indeed the infamous "serial killer." Here's the version I saved at the Wayback Machine, in case the original record is no longer available:
Speaking of that prison murder hoax, I wonder if you could look into the prison records of the alleged perpetrator Christopher Scarver in your spare time? If the same anomalies pop up for his records that they did for Dahmer's, that would really blow the whole murder story without any room for doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if those records are nonexistent, too. They're probably worth delving into for your future posts about the Dahmer saga.
Actually, you read my mind :) I have the extensive Scarver case files, never before published, and the findings are explosive. I am writing a series about it right now. That will also be published very soon!
From my end, I've checked with online incarceration databases at the federal level and in Colorado for Chris Scarver, and none of them show he is in prison. Federal prison records do show he did time in prison but was released sometime after, although the date of his release from federal custody is "unknown." Maybe some Freedom of Information requests will clarify the matter?
I also don't believe that there is another Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer who is 65...truth finder is aweome. OK,maybe Jeff Dahmer or Jeffrey Dahmer..but Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer...?! And the locations...hmm...i think it's him.😁 but who knows...but the world is a small place😁
I think Jeff has had enough of the media for the rest of his life, if he's still alive. I don't think he wants to be found. If he was, he'd let us know or be found on social media. I think the truth will come out, but Jeff won't deal with it. I respect him and would never look for him. His "death" was 30 years ago, and he probably wants to enjoy his life in peace.
I think he’d be like his brother David, who is very private. I remember a quote from Shari about how Jeff just wanted to disappear. I don’t think they envisioned just how big or enduring the story would still be after all these years. In fact, it just got worse over time, with the internet and now Netflix.
Yeah. Especially when people think you're dead, it's really easy to pass off as someone else. The Challenger victims allegedly did the same thing years later.
Maybe a hundred people with similar names, but not the same exact name (or, at least, not those who are in their 60s). TruthFinder only lists one “Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer” and his current age matches what the accused serial killer's would be if he's still alive. They're probably the same person.
Then again, it could be that TruthFinder may have aged him up. This happens a lot with people sites like WhitePages, so they're not always accurate.
But knowing what we know now about THE Jeffrey Dahmer, I think there's probably some merit to what TruthFinder shows. If they've lied about him serving time in prison and dying behind bars, what good reason do we have to believe he's really dead?
For sure. It’s not unrealistic he could still be out there, maybe even under a different identity, who knows. Since we don’t know what really happened after the so called prison murder.
Manson spent 2/3 of his life in prison, 100%. Danny Rolling too. You see it in the eyes, the lust to survive and kind of black humour. Jeff hve never been this kind....
Maybe, but that doesn't make those stories any less nonsensical than the Dahmer case. Perhaps, for instance, someone powerful had a grudge for Manson and framed him for the Tate/Labianca murders.
In Dahmer's case, they didn't even bother to go for that kind of realism from your description. They just claim he was incarcerated and that was enough.
Bravo. Just - bravo. You gave explanation about my doubts.
ALSO - about "his" signature on "property plan" - it`s not his hand. And exactly the same signature you find at Ambrosia payment check, and on membership card from bathhouse. By the way, car is on sale now for 250. 000 dollars, and payment check for 17.500.
The timeline of Dahmer being alone gave me pause. This certainly seems like they needed a convenient boogey man so to speak. Excellent research and writing as usual!!
Thank you! Yes, the findings are shocking, and it's all there to see. I do believe he was protecting his family in all this. The media, Netflix, all made out that he was abandoned for months, which was totally untrue.
You can also add "Dr." Douglas W. Owsley in the list of charlatans involved in this hoax. This is the same man who was involved in other frauds like Waco and 9/11:
This whole story is wild! This is an incredibly detailed and well-written analysis. One of your best yet!!
I think the discrepancies in Hicks' story are the most profound. So basically, it's said that serrated blades cannot cut through bone. Both saws alleged to have been used were serrated. From personal experience living in the woods, having 8 trees fall per year, I've done a lot of manual sawing, and cutting through a 20" diameter tree (super small) with both of those types of saws is EXHAUSTING and physically demanding. I'm over it after 3 minutes and it can take 15 minutes to complete. Wood is infinitely easier to saw through than bone. I can't imagine anyone sawing through bone. Even though bones are smaller, there's just no way, they're too hard.
Also, smashing bones with a sledgehammer and then transporting those bones to scatter them sounds odd. It would leave tons of fragments behind, unless done on a tarp in an enclosed setup, but the tarp would make it harder to smash.
I always had the impression he was never in prison, and it was all just for show. Like they moved him to some kind of safe house or something. The fact that the prison records are in limbo says everything.
This entire story falls apart at the seams here!!
Thank you! The deeper you look, the more it falls apart. The whole story is just completely illogical. Just, holes at every corner.
This case gets weirder and weirder. Especially the lack of prison documentation.
Weird is an understatement! It's truly beyond bizarre, all of it. And so poorly planned.
The fact that "they claim" he was murdered in prison really has me wondering what exactly they are doing. You would not dispose of paperwork on an inmate that was supposedly killed at your facility. This was a 3 ring circus not a serial killer case smh
Absolutely! There should be records for something of this magnitude, and it’s of huge historical interest. But there’s nothing at all. I always had my suspicions that Jeff was never really in prison. For something of this magnitude, the perp would be a candidate for Supermax for starters, never to be seen again in public! He wouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the public let alone be filmed by MSNBC traipsing the admin hallways at CCI, unrestrained and unrestricted! Going to his TV interviews! It’s so ridiculous. There’s not one single picture of Jeff in a cell environment. And in reality, he didn’t warrant anything to be in a high security prison, since the findings show there were no murders committed by him.
I always thought it was weird that he wasn't in solitary confinement. Ramirez was always not just on his own for 27 years but was in the Adjustment Center - the harshest section of death row.
It's one of the first things that struck me about the prison story; it just didn't make any sense at all. As you mentioned, Ramirez, with the allegations made against him, was in solitary confinement
Right and dont get me started on the pictures they supposedly took of him in prison wearing a leather belt with belt buckle even though his fake confession said he strangled many with a leather strap. WYH. Jeff was not in jail
Great observation! There's so much wrong with the whole narrative! The closer you look, the more holes keep appearing.
He's probably still alive somewhere under a different alias, laughing at us for believing the blatant tripe spewed about him. And he most certainly never seen a single day behind bars. The same could be said for other phony serial killers like Bundy and Manson.
It’s the tip of the iceberg. Yes I agree, I find it incredible that people can still believe all this nonsense. A close look and it completely falls apart. It’s a narrative that’s beyond ridiculous. And I always had my doubts that he ever spent a day in prison. He didn’t warrant anything and n reality, to be in a high security jail for a start. Let alone permitted to be around the public so freely.
Speaking of which, people sites like TruthFinder list him as still alive at age 65, which would be the alleged murderer's age if he's still living today. That site appears to list all the right places, although no relations are disclosed, which makes it a bit difficult to confirm if this Jeffrey Dahmer was indeed the infamous "serial killer." Here's the version I saved at the Wayback Machine, in case the original record is no longer available:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250718061447/https://www.truthfinder.com/results/?firstName=Jeffrey&lastName=Dahmer&state=ALL&gender=male&fromHome=true&middleInitial=Lionel&age=65&previewSearchQuestion=true&qLocation=true&qRelatives=false&qAgeRange=
The prison murder story is as fake as the rest so there’s a possibility he’s still alive, 65 isn’t that old.
Speaking of that prison murder hoax, I wonder if you could look into the prison records of the alleged perpetrator Christopher Scarver in your spare time? If the same anomalies pop up for his records that they did for Dahmer's, that would really blow the whole murder story without any room for doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if those records are nonexistent, too. They're probably worth delving into for your future posts about the Dahmer saga.
Actually, you read my mind :) I have the extensive Scarver case files, never before published, and the findings are explosive. I am writing a series about it right now. That will also be published very soon!
From my end, I've checked with online incarceration databases at the federal level and in Colorado for Chris Scarver, and none of them show he is in prison. Federal prison records do show he did time in prison but was released sometime after, although the date of his release from federal custody is "unknown." Maybe some Freedom of Information requests will clarify the matter?
I also don't believe that there is another Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer who is 65...truth finder is aweome. OK,maybe Jeff Dahmer or Jeffrey Dahmer..but Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer...?! And the locations...hmm...i think it's him.😁 but who knows...but the world is a small place😁
It would be a nice thought :)
I am sure he is alive.
I think Jeff has had enough of the media for the rest of his life, if he's still alive. I don't think he wants to be found. If he was, he'd let us know or be found on social media. I think the truth will come out, but Jeff won't deal with it. I respect him and would never look for him. His "death" was 30 years ago, and he probably wants to enjoy his life in peace.
I think he’d be like his brother David, who is very private. I remember a quote from Shari about how Jeff just wanted to disappear. I don’t think they envisioned just how big or enduring the story would still be after all these years. In fact, it just got worse over time, with the internet and now Netflix.
And he is related to Lionel Dahmer
His brother David has the same middle name too.
I found only 1 Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer,65 years old,lives in Ohio. 🤗😁
:)
It doesn't seem he even changed his name (if TruthFinder is correct.) That's how stupid they think we are.
It would be easy to get lost among other people of the same name, there’s other Jeffrey Dahmer’s out there also.
Agree,over 100
Exactly.
Yeah. Especially when people think you're dead, it's really easy to pass off as someone else. The Challenger victims allegedly did the same thing years later.
Exactly that. No-one would be actively looking for him.
Wait,wait,Jeff Dahmer is alive???
Cannot be completely sure but we know the prison murder story isn’t true.
I find it strange that the name, age, and location match. Everything fits. So I think it's him.
:)
While you are talking here, I am already packing my suitcases to see my baby)
P.S. Kiddng of course, I never visit people without invitation)
Lol :))
I don't believe truthfinder...there are over 100 people with the same name...impossible 😁😆😆😆😆
Yes it’s a problem lol.
Maybe a hundred people with similar names, but not the same exact name (or, at least, not those who are in their 60s). TruthFinder only lists one “Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer” and his current age matches what the accused serial killer's would be if he's still alive. They're probably the same person.
Then again, it could be that TruthFinder may have aged him up. This happens a lot with people sites like WhitePages, so they're not always accurate.
But knowing what we know now about THE Jeffrey Dahmer, I think there's probably some merit to what TruthFinder shows. If they've lied about him serving time in prison and dying behind bars, what good reason do we have to believe he's really dead?
For sure. It’s not unrealistic he could still be out there, maybe even under a different identity, who knows. Since we don’t know what really happened after the so called prison murder.
Manson spent 2/3 of his life in prison, 100%. Danny Rolling too. You see it in the eyes, the lust to survive and kind of black humour. Jeff hve never been this kind....
That's what initially threw a lot of people, his demeanour.
Maybe, but that doesn't make those stories any less nonsensical than the Dahmer case. Perhaps, for instance, someone powerful had a grudge for Manson and framed him for the Tate/Labianca murders.
In Dahmer's case, they didn't even bother to go for that kind of realism from your description. They just claim he was incarcerated and that was enough.
It's incredible how they just expect people to believe this stuff without question. The Dahmer story is so badly put together too.
Bravo. Just - bravo. You gave explanation about my doubts.
ALSO - about "his" signature on "property plan" - it`s not his hand. And exactly the same signature you find at Ambrosia payment check, and on membership card from bathhouse. By the way, car is on sale now for 250. 000 dollars, and payment check for 17.500.
JD`s case and trial is just fairy tale.
The whole thing just leaves me speechless really. I took a close look at his signature; he also writes in non-cursive at times, too.
The timeline of Dahmer being alone gave me pause. This certainly seems like they needed a convenient boogey man so to speak. Excellent research and writing as usual!!
Thank you! Yes, the findings are shocking, and it's all there to see. I do believe he was protecting his family in all this. The media, Netflix, all made out that he was abandoned for months, which was totally untrue.
Harika bir yazı. Şüphelerim yavaş yavaş kayboluyor. Anlamadığım yerleri güzel bir şekilde açıklıyor.
Thank you! It also helped me to find answers to the missing pieces too.
This is great :)
Thank you! :)
Great work as always!
Thank you! Appreciate your support! There's lots more in the pipeline, as I got my hands on some very interesting files! :)
You can also add "Dr." Douglas W. Owsley in the list of charlatans involved in this hoax. This is the same man who was involved in other frauds like Waco and 9/11:
https://911planesresearch.substack.com/p/question-could-dna-of-the-alleged/comment/136421892
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Owsley#Jeffrey_Dahmer's_first_victim
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Owsley#Waco_Branch_Davidian_compound_victims
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Owsley#9/11_Pentagon_victims
Thanks! This is very interesting. It seems the same people pop up time and again in these narratives.
It's a small world in that corrupt cesspit. They sometimes recycle the same cast of clowns for other manufactured events.
We see the same names crop up in these stories, for sure.